Hi Steve.

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you
relink?

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever
diminishing number of echos.


... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
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Hello Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you WC>relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent
Moderator of the Fidonews echo

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry,
the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo,
not just the fidonews echo.

There are many BBSes throughout the world which carry the fidonews
echo. BBS listings can easily be found by doing a search on the
web. Most of those BBSes allow participants to read and write in
that echo, paying no heed any pretender(s) to the throne.

If you are having a problem reading and writing in the fidonews
echo from docsplace, use a different BBS. Problem solved.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever WC>diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

--Lee


* SLMR 2.1a * Nothing is so smiple that it can't get screwed up.

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Xaragmata / Adelaide SA telnet://xaragmata.mooo.com (3:800/432)

LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

Hello Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you
relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Do you have a URL to this document?
If so I'll post it to Ed Koon at Doc's Place.

I'll also forward this very post in this echo to Steve Asher.

I've no desire in participating in the demise of fidonet.

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?
As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into regional authority.

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Sounds right but I want confirmation, thusly I'll forward this to Steve in this

echo as well as to Ed Koon to see his response.

I very much wish to participate in discussions with a certain number of Europeans and Scandinavians.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry,
the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo, not just the fidonews echo.

There are many BBSes throughout the world which carry the fidonews
echo. BBS listings can easily be found by doing a search on the
web. Most of those BBSes allow participants to read and write in
that echo, paying no heed any pretender(s) to the throne.

Well yes now that I'm fully back in working order I can find them quite easily, unfortunately I forgot passwords to several other quite nice boards with the full compliment of fido echos due to the stroke.

Then to I've your listings of those references in my text/bbs file.

If you are having a problem reading and writing in the fidonews
echo from docsplace, use a different BBS. Problem solved.

Yup, that one in Scotland for one, synchronet.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I don't get out hardly at all or I would do so.
There is only one other in this dump with online computers

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever
diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

An optimistic viewpoint I've little personal optimism for however
I hope you're right and I am wrong on this.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
* Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)

Hi Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of
weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did
you relink?

As far as I know the person who banned you is still banning you, and
none of his echoes (as listed in the current echolist) are linked here,
or pass through here. Not worth the hassle, as Fido slowly passes into
history.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

There was a time when I was a "true believer" in Fido, as it was much
better (IMO) than Usenet & the like, but the various blog sites &
blog software (such as Thingamablog) make it easy for anyone to set up
their own special interest blogs, or post on those that match their
interests. phpbbs does a good job of allowing lots of topics like
echomail, and under local admin control, without the need to deal with
Fido's "elf lords".

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever diminishing number of echos.

The idea of FidoNet is still good, but ease of setup & access to the
web-based alternatives has made it largely irrelevant, much like CB
Radio, which was big here about 40 years ago.

Mobiles pretty well killed that off. Even I have one or two, but
don't remember the number :)

Steve..

---
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STEVE ASHER wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

Hello Steve.

I apologize for the bother I've caused you.

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of
weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did
you relink?

As far as I know the person who banned you is still banning you,

Yes and he makes nice for a time with me than when I do not take the bait he goes right back to character, or more apropriately lack of same in stirring stuff up among his group of followers.

I note with some dismay in his postings of his NNTP server he posts not
only the names of his users but also the IP addresses of same
with one such user named ogg?

Presumably taken from the copy writed mp3 compressed sound format
and adopted as a user name from the freeware ogg compressed music
file format.

and
none of his echoes (as listed in the current echolist) are linked here,
or pass through here. Not worth the hassle, as Fido slowly passes into history.

Thanks for the reply.
Again, had I know beforehand the result I would not have posted there from your BBS.

Still if Doc's Place goes down I can still get my Linux fix there.

I was told by someone that the mod of the echo was in another zone but was concerned those moderator privilages were dealt with in differing zones
by different moderators and so thus I shall not presume to post
to fidonews from yet another suggested BBS in Scotland.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

There was a time when I was a "true believer" in Fido, as it was much better (IMO) than Usenet & the like, but the various blog sites &

It WAS IMO.
It started its death spiral IMO about six years ago when a fellow by the name of Collins in the COMM echo and others stopped participating.

blog software (such as Thingamablog) make it easy for anyone to set up their own special interest blogs, or post on those that match their interests. phpbbs does a good job of allowing lots of topics like echomail, and under local admin control, without the need to deal with Fido's "elf lords".

Yeah, isn't that _something_.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever diminishing number of echos.

The idea of FidoNet is still good, but ease of setup & access to the web-based alternatives has made it largely irrelevant, much like CB
Radio, which was big here about 40 years ago.

Never cared for CB myself dispite having owned one or two I repaired.

I did almost venture into the HAM radio sector and had most of the then required
morse code dealt with as well as enough study to pass for a general class license.

Mobiles pretty well killed that off. Even I have one or two, but
don't remember the number :)

No point in joining that Scottish BBS then and it's got limited fidonet echos.

The stroke took out my recollection the passwords to many of the BBS's I'm already a member of and the same pesky mod that banned me from fidonews, no netmail and initially at least merely a suspension of unspecified length he merely would not divulge that.

Got me banned from another BBS by posting a *private netmail* to him
in of all places the Linux echo.

That resulted in the loss of BBS usage of that board as well
as being banned from the Linux echo until I pointed out to Scott Little
it was he who posted that private netmail there and not I.

Someone from the originating BBS also had had a habit of posting in my name as well though I've never been nor ever will be a member of that BBS now news server.

Origin line of the fraudulent Wayne Chirnside, The Eastern Star.

So who is to say if I was banned for one of my posts or that of the fraud
as the text of the post nor reason for then suspension ever made known to me. Same origin line: Eastern Star.

As that moderator now disclaims he's running a BBS in favor of NNTP I
wonder just how justified his claim upon moderator status is in the first place?

You know I did in fact apologize for my rude and inappropriate behavior in the fidonews echo which was the result of a stroke causing me to lose control of my ability to control my emotions for some four years when prodded by none other than you know who.

Kicking a man while he's down is a characteristic I've the utmost contempt for and despite my rather large size something I never once engaged in.

In fact I've been violence adverse all of my life and being of rather large size
and able to take a punch as if nothing never actually have resorted to ever really gotten into a serious fight and at that NEVER a fight initiated by myself.

Oftimes merely taking a hit or two and just smiling was enough for the other to run along to some other business elsewhere.
Fine by me.

Too bad though as fidonews has some rather intelligent and well spoken individuals still in it.

Mostly from abroad and outside the U.S.A. with spare exception however :-(

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
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Hello Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you >WC>relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Do you have a URL to this document?
If so I'll post it to Ed Koon at Doc's Place.

It is posted publicly every month in the fidonews echo.

I'll also forward this very post in this echo to Steve Asher.

I am sure he has already read it. ;)

I've no desire in participating in the demise of fidonet.

There are some remnants of fidonet that remain active.

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent >LL>Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?

There is no such animal.

As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into WC>regional authority.

The only authority that exists is the editor of the fidonews newsletter
and permanent moderator of the fidonews echo, Bjorn Felten, as stated in
the official rules of the fidonews echo (document cited above).

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Sounds right but I want confirmation, thusly I'll forward
this to Steve in this

Steve already has a copy of that documentation, and has read it.

echo as well as to Ed Koon to see his response.

Ed can easily find it posted in the fidonews echo, as it is posted
each and every month in public for all to see.

I very much wish to participate in discussions with a certain number of WC>Europeans and Scandinavians.

The moderator of the fidonews echo has banned no one from participating.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry, >LL>the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo, >LL>not just the fidonews echo.

There are many BBSes throughout the world which carry the fidonews >LL>echo. BBS listings can easily be found by doing a search on the
web. Most of those BBSes allow participants to read and write in
that echo, paying no heed any pretender(s) to the throne.

Well yes now that I'm fully back in working order I can find them quite WC>easily, unfortunately I forgot passwords to several other quite nice boards WC>with the full compliment of fido echos due to the stroke.

Log on as `new user', go through registration process, and proceed from
there.

Then to I've your listings of those references in my text/bbs file.

There are many more BBSes out there. Too many to be named or listed.

If you are having a problem reading and writing in the fidonews
echo from docsplace, use a different BBS. Problem solved.

Yup, that one in Scotland for one, synchronet.

One of many.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I don't get out hardly at all or I would do so.
There is only one other in this dump with online computers

It is like planting seeds. Sometimes it takes a while for a seed
to grow. And when it grows, it can grow into a great big tree.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever >WC>diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

An optimistic viewpoint I've little personal optimism for however
I hope you're right and I am wrong on this.

"Will I dream?" - HAL 9000 to Dave, in the movie "2001: A Space Odyssey"

--Lee


* SLMR 2.1a * FARTS ARE GOD'S GIFT TO THE WORLD

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Xaragmata / Adelaide SA telnet://xaragmata.mooo.com (3:800/432)

LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

Hello Lee

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.

Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you
relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Do you have a URL to this document?
If so I'll post it to Ed Koon at Doc's Place.

It is posted publicly every month in the fidonews echo.

In which event I've got it archived.

I am sure he has already read it. ;)

So aren't I as of yesterday.

I've no desire in participating in the demise of fidonet.

There are some remnants of fidonet that remain active.

Some.

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent
Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?

There is no such animal.

Steve Asher begs to differ in a post to me in this very echo.

As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into
regional authority.

The only authority that exists is the editor of the fidonews newsletter and permanent moderator of the fidonews echo, Bjorn Felten, as stated
in the official rules of the fidonews echo (document cited above).

Well until I've an actual sysops word for it I can't risk another
BBS being cut due to myself posting there.

Actually Cassell claims he no longer runs a BBS but rather instead
the Eastern Star NNTPD server.

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Sounds right but I want confirmation, thusly I'll forward
this to Steve in this

Steve already has a copy of that documentation, and has read it.

echo as well as to Ed Koon to see his response.

Ed can easily find it posted in the fidonews echo, as it is posted
each and every month in public for all to see.

I very much wish to participate in discussions with a certain number of
Europeans and Scandinavians.

The moderator of the fidonews echo has banned no one from
participating.

Nevertheless Ed Koon DID cut my posting privileges for a time
so I guess he either does not accept that view or can't be bothered
to verify your argument.

Other people do have lives you know.

I'm largely bedridden with a computer at my side 18 inches away.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry,
the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo,
not just the fidonews echo.

Well I can telnet into that BBS you suggested and ASK the sysop there.
ISTR synchonet boards being very Linux telnet compatable.

There are many BBSes throughout the world which carry the fidonews
echo. BBS listings can easily be found by doing a search on the
web. Most of those BBSes allow participants to read and write in
that echo, paying no heed any pretender(s) to the throne.

Well yes now that I'm fully back in working order I can find them quite
easily, unfortunately I forgot passwords to several other quite nice boards
with the full compliment of fido echos due to the stroke.

Log on as `new user', go through registration process, and proceed from there.

Then to I've your listings of those references in my text/bbs file.

There are many more BBSes out there. Too many to be named or listed.

If you are having a problem reading and writing in the fidonews
echo from docsplace, use a different BBS. Problem solved.

Yup, that one in Scotland for one, synchronet.

One of many.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I don't get out hardly at all or I would do so.
There is only one other in this dump with online computers

It is like planting seeds. Sometimes it takes a while for a seed
to grow. And when it grows, it can grow into a great big tree.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever
diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

An optimistic viewpoint I've little personal optimism for however
I hope you're right and I am wrong on this.

"Will I dream?" - HAL 9000 to Dave, in the movie "2001: A Space
Odyssey"

Saw that one ages ago when it first came out.

... MultiMail, the new multi-platform, multi-format offline reader!
--- MultiMail/Linux v0.49
* Origin: Doc's Place BBS Fido Since 1991 docsplace.tzo.com (1:123/140)

Hello Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks. >WC>Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you >WC>relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz
"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Do you have a URL to this document?
If so I'll post it to Ed Koon at Doc's Place.

It is posted publicly every month in the fidonews echo.

In which event I've got it archived.

Keep it for future reference, same as rules for other echoes.

I am sure he has already read it. ;)

So aren't I as of yesterday.

Not a problem. Posted rules, unedited, in this echo.

I've no desire in participating in the demise of fidonet.

There are some remnants of fidonet that remain active.

Some.

Time to rebuild an empire! :)

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent >LL>Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?

There is no such animal.

Steve Asher begs to differ in a post to me in this very echo.

Not at all. He merely unlinked the fidonews echo (and a few other
echoes) from his BBS.

As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into >WC>regional authority.

The only authority that exists is the editor of the fidonews newsletter >LL>and permanent moderator of the fidonews echo, Bjorn Felten, as stated >LL>in the official rules of the fidonews echo (document cited above).

Well until I've an actual sysops word for it I can't risk another
BBS being cut due to myself posting there.

Bjorn Felten is a sysop. Does his word count?

Actually Cassell claims he no longer runs a BBS but rather instead
the Eastern Star NNTPD server.

Who cares?

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Sounds right but I want confirmation, thusly I'll forward
this to Steve in this

Steve already has a copy of that documentation, and has read it.

echo as well as to Ed Koon to see his response.

Ed can easily find it posted in the fidonews echo, as it is posted
each and every month in public for all to see.

I very much wish to participate in discussions with a certain number of >WC>Europeans and Scandinavians.

The moderator of the fidonews echo has banned no one from >LL>participating.

Nevertheless Ed Koon DID cut my posting privileges for a time
so I guess he either does not accept that view or can't be bothered
to verify your argument.

There is no argument, as the rules clearly state -

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

"Every sysop" - regardless of zone.
"any user" - regardless of zone.
"reading and writing in it" - full participation.

Other people do have lives you know.

Time is a very precious commodity. How we spend it is up to us.

I'm largely bedridden with a computer at my side 18 inches away.

So is Stephen Hawking

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry, >LL>the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo, >LL>not just the fidonews echo.

Well I can telnet into that BBS you suggested and ASK the sysop there. WC>ISTR synchonet boards being very Linux telnet compatable.

Be kind. Especially to your web-footed friends. Let them know
what echoes you are interested in, and most sysops would be glad
to help (including adding an echo if you ask nicely). Those who
refuse to be of help aren't worth the bother, in which case you
simply move on to another BBS. :)

There are many BBSes throughout the world which carry the fidonews >LL>echo. BBS listings can easily be found by doing a search on the
web. Most of those BBSes allow participants to read and write in
that echo, paying no heed any pretender(s) to the throne.

Well yes now that I'm fully back in working order I can find them quite >WC>easily, unfortunately I forgot passwords to several
other quite nice boards
with the full compliment of fido echos due to the stroke.

Log on as `new user', go through registration process, and proceed from >LL>there.

Then to I've your listings of those references in my text/bbs file. >LL>There are many more BBSes out there. Too many to be named or listed. >LL>If you are having a problem reading and writing in the fidonews

echo from docsplace, use a different BBS. Problem solved.

Yup, that one in Scotland for one, synchronet.

One of many.

Fidonet is dying quite fast enough without my enabling
someone to speed its demise.

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I don't get out hardly at all or I would do so.
There is only one other in this dump with online computers

It is like planting seeds. Sometimes it takes a while for a seed
to grow. And when it grows, it can grow into a great big tree.

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever >WC>diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

An optimistic viewpoint I've little personal optimism for however
I hope you're right and I am wrong on this.

"Will I dream?" - HAL 9000 to Dave, in the movie "2001: A Space >LL>Odyssey"

Saw that one ages ago when it first came out.

Did you dream?

--Lee


* SLMR 2.1a * If this were an actual tagline, it would be funny.

--- Maximus 3.01
* Origin: Xaragmata / Adelaide SA telnet://xaragmata.mooo.com (3:800/432)

LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

Hello Wayne,

Here using Doc's Place BBS I note a recent upturn in
the fidonews echo after it went virtually dead for a couple of weeks.
Has that moderator - sysop relented and lifted the feed cut or did you
relink?

"Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!"
- The Wizard of Oz
"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Do you have a URL to this document?
If so I'll post it to Ed Koon at Doc's Place.

It is posted publicly every month in the fidonews echo.

In which event I've got it archived.

Keep it for future reference, same as rules for other echoes.

Actually I trippped over the bookmark for the current document in
my Misc folder.

I am sure he has already read it. ;)

So aren't I as of yesterday.

Not a problem. Posted rules, unedited, in this echo.

I've no desire in participating in the demise of fidonet.

There are some remnants of fidonet that remain active.

Some.

Time to rebuild an empire! :)

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent
Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?

There is no such animal.

Steve Asher begs to differ in a post to me in this very echo.

Not at all. He merely unlinked the fidonews echo (and a few other
echoes) from his BBS.

OK, I inquired about that but he didn't address THAT point.

As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into
regional authority.

The only authority that exists is the editor of the fidonews newsletter
and permanent moderator of the fidonews echo, Bjorn Felten, as stated
in the official rules of the fidonews echo (document cited above).

Well until I've an actual sysops word for it I can't risk another
BBS being cut due to myself posting there.

Bjorn Felten is a sysop. Does his word count?

You Betcha.

Actually Cassell claims he no longer runs a BBS but rather instead
the Eastern Star NNTPD server.

Who cares?

Not I.

In regards to the fidonews echo, any "moderator" other than
Bjorn Felten should be ignored as they are nothing but pretenders
to the throne.

Sounds right but I want confirmation, thusly I'll forward
this to Steve in this

Steve already has a copy of that documentation, and has read it.

echo as well as to Ed Koon to see his response.

Ed can easily find it posted in the fidonews echo, as it is posted
each and every month in public for all to see.

I very much wish to participate in discussions with a certain number of
Europeans and Scandinavians.

The moderator of the fidonews echo has banned no one from
participating.

Nevertheless Ed Koon DID cut my posting privileges for a time
so I guess he either does not accept that view or can't be bothered
to verify your argument.

There is no argument, as the rules clearly state -

"Every sysop is encouraged to make this echo available to
any user, that's interested in reading and writing in it."
- Bjorn Felten, Moderator of the Fidonews echo

"Every sysop" - regardless of zone.
"any user" - regardless of zone.
"reading and writing in it" - full participation.

Other people do have lives you know.

Time is a very precious commodity. How we spend it is up to us.

I'm largely bedridden with a computer at my side 18 inches away.

So is Stephen Hawking

Had to bring HIM up!

That'sa about the ONLY time I feel I'm not so bad off.
Are you aware those with his condition usaully don't survive past 19?

Oh yeah and his latest thing about giant roving nomadic alien raider
threats I find ridiculous.

In any case we've a few tens of thousands of years before they could ever get here unless they manage to circumvent the speed of light limitation.

Don't worry as I won't post to that echo from your BBS, nor
any others suggested to me by someone.

It is up to each individual sysop whether to carry, or not to carry,
the fidonews echo on his/her system. The same goes for any other echo,
not just the fidonews echo.

Well I can telnet into that BBS you suggested and ASK the sysop there.
ISTR synchonet boards being very Linux telnet compatable.

Be kind. Especially to your web-footed friends. Let them know
what echoes you are interested in, and most sysops would be glad
to help (including adding an echo if you ask nicely). Those who
refuse to be of help aren't worth the bother, in which case you
simply move on to another BBS. :)

Hey and Lee, I just ordered my new motherboard this morning for 3 day UPS delivery.

An internet google search for problems related to this board came
up returning a mere 201 links and most of those caught were the result
of "no problems."

Check out the stats AM3/AM2+/AM2 up to DDR2 1066 or even DDR3
Max processor 140 watt multicore.

I'm going with an AMD dual core 64 5200 Brisbane and two
sticks of DDR2 Crucial SDRAM memory 1024 800 to start off

3 USB2 with cable and six more headers on the M.B.
2xPCI/2xPCIe1/2xPCIe16 slots

1xATA IDE master - slave
6xSATA II

So I'm moving from a 1998 IBM 32 bit Aptiva with 450 MHz Pentium II Deshutes alpha
to a 2.7 GHz AMD dual core 64 bit!

A pretty fair jump in performance I can expect no? ;-)

Oh baby!

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Hello Wayne,

[..]

In which event I've got it archived.

Keep it for future reference, same as rules for other echoes.

Actually I trippped over the bookmark for the current document in
my Misc folder.

Stuff happens. Usually not bad stuff. Just stuff. :)

[..]

"The Fidonews editor ... is the permanent moderator of this echo."
- Bjorn Felten, Editor of the Fidonews newsletter, and the Permanent >LL>Moderator of the Fidonews echo

Yes but not the zone 1 mod right?

There is no such animal.

Steve Asher begs to differ in a post to me in this very echo.

Not at all. He merely unlinked the fidonews echo (and a few other >LL>echoes) from his BBS.

OK, I inquired about that but he didn't address THAT point.

Not anything to lose any sleep over. The point is, Steve is happy.
As well as those who enjoy his BBS.

As I was led to believe those responsiblities are broken down into >WC>regional authority.

The only authority that exists is the editor of the fidonews newsletter >LL>and permanent moderator of the fidonews echo, Bjorn Felten, as stated >LL>in the official rules of the fidonews echo (document cited above).

Well until I've an actual sysops word for it I can't risk another
BBS being cut due to myself posting there.

Bjorn Felten is a sysop. Does his word count?

You Betcha.

Email sent. One that you will be sure to enjoy. Immensely. :)

Actually Cassell claims he no longer runs a BBS but rather instead
the Eastern Star NNTPD server.

Who cares?

Not I.

Jimmy crack corn, I don't care. Jimmy crack corn, I don't care.
Jimmy crack corn, I don't care, my horse done won the Derby today!

[..]

Other people do have lives you know.

Time is a very precious commodity. How we spend it is up to us.

I'm largely bedridden with a computer at my side 18 inches away.

So is Stephen Hawking

Had to bring HIM up!

He's a genius!

That'sa about the ONLY time I feel I'm not so bad off.
Are you aware those with his condition usaully don't survive past 19?

If they make it that far.

Oh yeah and his latest thing about giant roving nomadic alien raider WC>threats I find ridiculous.

It is not as far-fetched as one might think. Although his conclusions
might be a bit daffy, his reasoning is sound.

In any case we've a few tens of thousands of years before they
could ever get here unless they manage to circumvent the speed of
light limitation.

Who says they haven't already been here? Who says they are not
here today? Erich Von Daniken has written much about the subject,
and documented many cases of what he believes has been visitations
by beings from somewhere other than Earth.

[..]

Well I can telnet into that BBS you suggested and ASK the sysop there. >WC>ISTR synchonet boards being very Linux telnet compatable.

I sent you a better one. Check email. :)

Be kind. Especially to your web-footed friends. Let them know
what echoes you are interested in, and most sysops would be glad
to help (including adding an echo if you ask nicely). Those who
refuse to be of help aren't worth the bother, in which case you
simply move on to another BBS. :)

Hey and Lee, I just ordered my new motherboard this morning for
3 day UPS delivery.

If it is in stock. If not, well, you might have to wait a tad longer.
Had that problem a few years ago. Ordered a guitar. Company said it
was in stock, and would arrive within a few days. The "few days" turned
out to be much longer than that, and I wound up making a deal to get
a better guitar at the same price rather than waiting for the one I
had originally ordered. And then I gave the guitar away to a friend
who had joined the Army.

An internet google search for problems related to this board came
up returning a mere 201 links and most of those caught were the result
of "no problems."
Check out the stats AM3/AM2+/AM2 up to DDR2 1066 or even DDR3
Max processor 140 watt multicore.
I'm going with an AMD dual core 64 5200 Brisbane and two
sticks of DDR2 Crucial SDRAM memory 1024 800 to start off
3 USB2 with cable and six more headers on the M.B.
2xPCI/2xPCIe1/2xPCIe16 slots
1xATA IDE master - slave
6xSATA II
So I'm moving from a 1998 IBM 32 bit Aptiva with 450 MHz Pentium II Deshutes WC>alpha
to a 2.7 GHz AMD dual core 64 bit!
A pretty fair jump in performance I can expect no? ;-)
Oh baby!

You are making that linux box of yours scream. :)

--Lee


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LEE LOFASO wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE <=-

I sent you a better one. Check email. :)

Will do tomorrow.

Be kind. Especially to your web-footed friends. Let them know
what echoes you are interested in, and most sysops would be glad
to help (including adding an echo if you ask nicely). Those who
refuse to be of help aren't worth the bother, in which case you
simply move on to another BBS. :)

Hey and Lee, I just ordered my new motherboard this morning for
3 day UPS delivery.

If it is in stock. If not, well, you might have to wait a tad longer.

Out of stock, darn.

OTOH I scored a dual core Intel 64 bit 2.8 GHz processor
Gateway for $21.39 bought bulk and untested with 1 Gig DDR SDRAM.

Ray bought in bulk and couldn't be bothered to test each one
so I got a DEAL!

DVD RW, CD-ROM RW.

Currently boots to Windows Vista but that'll soon change.

Had that problem a few years ago. Ordered a guitar. Company said it
was in stock, and would arrive within a few days. The "few days"
turned out to be much longer than that, and I wound up making a deal to get a better guitar at the same price rather than waiting for the one I had originally ordered. And then I gave the guitar away to a friend
who had joined the Army.

An internet google search for problems related to this board came
up returning a mere 201 links and most of those caught were the result
of "no problems."
Check out the stats AM3/AM2+/AM2 up to DDR2 1066 or even DDR3
Max processor 140 watt multicore.
I'm going with an AMD dual core 64 5200 Brisbane and two
sticks of DDR2 Crucial SDRAM memory 1024 800 to start off
3 USB2 with cable and six more headers on the M.B.
2xPCI/2xPCIe1/2xPCIe16 slots
1xATA IDE master - slave
6xSATA II
So I'm moving from a 1998 IBM 32 bit Aptiva with 450 MHz Pentium II Deshutes
alpha
to a 2.7 GHz AMD dual core 64 bit!
A pretty fair jump in performance I can expect no? ;-)
Oh baby!

You are making that linux box of yours scream. :)

Hey I'm still happy.
Lousy $21.39 Pentium dual core 64 bit Intel 2.8 GHz Gateway.

DVD-RW dual layer 16 x and 40x CD-ROM RW.
Well i Don't actually recall the write speed for the CD-ROM
but playback is 40x
1 Gig RAM, 2xPCI, 1xPCIe16.
$21.39

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Fidonet is dying...

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I've often entertained the thought about starting a new echo, but it
probably takes effort and I am the laziest man in six continents...

I do have a philosophy that should shake and change the world...
...but it requires persons to change their minds about a lot of things...
and is well worth it.

Naaa. I'll try another venue....maybe write a book. (Sigh) THAT takes
effort too...
(Maybe I'll just go extreme right-wing and stop thinking completely
Hmmm...that WOULD be a form of death, wouldn't it?)

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever WC>diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

Evidently, twitter and facebook (And probably a dozen I haven't heard of)
are taking over the DOS-started digital communication world...
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Hello John,

Fidonet is dying...

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I've often entertained the thought about starting a new echo, but it JO>probably takes effort and I am the laziest man in six continents...

You lazy bum! Get off yer berzonka and start a farting echo!

I do have a philosophy that should shake and change the world...

So do I. :)

...but it requires persons to change their minds about a lot of things...

Such as food. And wine. And wimmen. And song.

and is well worth it.

You can say that again. :)

Naaa. I'll try another venue....maybe write a book. (Sigh) THAT takes JO>effort too...

John's Book of Verse. Or would that be Doggerel?

(Maybe I'll just go extreme right-wing and stop thinking completely JO>Hmmm...that WOULD be a form of death, wouldn't it?)

Wha'? No more pomes from the Poet Laureate of Fido?
Please tell me it ain't so!

There are still a number of quality individuals posting in an ever >WC>diminishing number of echos.

With fresh blood, and new echoes, that could change.

Evidently, twitter and facebook (And probably a dozen I haven't heard of) JO>are taking over the DOS-started digital communication world...

It's a conspiracy, I tell you! A vast right-wing conspiracy!
And don't tell me Hillary didn't warn you!

--Lee


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--- Maximus 3.01
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Fidonet is dying...

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I've often entertained the thought about starting a new echo,

Something like "The Church of the Smiling Vagina"?

Nah!

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Fidonet is dying...

Then get some fresh blood, inviting others to join in.

I've often entertained the thought about starting a new echo, but it
probably takes effort and I am the laziest man in six continents...

You lazy bum! Get off yer berzonka and start a farting echo!

I do have a philosophy that should shake and change the world...

So do I. :)

...but it requires persons to change their minds about a lot of things...

Such as food. And wine. And wimmen. And song.

I'm going to go for the woman.

The military finally found a place for the somewhat moti

The Marine M.P. that personally graced the deck of Saint Petersburg's
ground _finest_, the excrementally demented Saint Petersburg Police Department.


I saw her take out the first three, totally justified in self
defense.

She's just my sweet baby :-)


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Such as food. And wine. And wimmen. And song.

I'm going to go for the woman.

Cool! I'll grab the wine and guitars!

Them wimmens be heavy!

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HI Steve,

On Thu 2038-May-13 03:00, Steve Kemp (1:123/789) wrote to WAYNE CHIRNSIDE:

Such as food. And wine. And wimmen. And song.

I'm going to go for the woman.

Cool! I'll grab the wine and guitars!

YOu can have the wine, now if you've got a good bourbon
though ...

that, and were it legal a spliff now and then wouldn't be
too bad either <g>.

Them wimmens be heavy!

Yah, and I've got one, and she's a full time gig keeping her maintained <g>. I"ll take the guitars, and a nice piano and a hammond b3 is
pretty cool too. Sure miss my old b3 with the LEslie 147
cabinet.

Regards,
Richard
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