• simply the best

    From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Tina Turner on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 21:39:43
    Hey Tina!

    UTF-8 messaging can be fun for the habe Eichhörnchen in meiner Hose", whole family, especially Fidonet. within a single message which covers
    five languages thus vastly increasing Case in point is when you find your coverage when searching for a squirrels in your pants and lack a solution to this most perplexing suitable search for a solution within situation.
    the Fidonet family. With UTF-8
    enabled then one could send a single So, what are you waiting for? Enable message with, "I've got squirrels in UTF-8 Fidonet text messaging today
    my pants", "Jag har ekorrar i mina and join in on the fun.
    byxor", "У меня в штанах белка", "Έχω σκίουροι στο παντελόνι μου" and "Ich - 30 -


    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 21:58:09
    Hallo Maurice!

    All wrong! You set it along the wrong path. This one will be better;

    UTF-8 messaging can be fun for the habe Eichh├╢rnchen in meiner Hose", whole family, especially Fidonet. within a single message which covers
    five languages thus vastly increasing Case in point is when you find your coverage when searching for a squirrels in your pants and lack a solution to this most perplexing suitable search for a solution within situation.
    the Fidonet family. With UTF-8
    enabled then one could send a single So, what are you waiting for? Enable message with, "I've got squirrels in UTF-8 Fidonet text messaging today
    my pants", "Jag har ekorrar i mina and join in on the fun.
    byxor", "У меня в штанах белка", "Έχω σκίουροι στο παντελόνι μου" and "Ich - 30 -

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 22:04:14
    Hello Maurice Kinal!

    Wow ... Tina Turner is a node in Fidonet??
    Why was there no REPLY Kludge?
    Also I did not get the original mail that you replied to.

    23 Apr 19 21:39:42, Maurice Kinal wrote to Tina Turner:

    UTF-8 messaging can be fun for the habe Eichhörnchen in meiner
    Hose",

    If you spell Eichhörnchen like Eichhoernchen then you get away with ASCII for German.
    If the software supports UTF-8 and you can read/write Russian, Hebrew, Arab or Chinese then it can be fun indeed.

    CU, Ricsi

    --- goAtEd-linux/amd64 1.0.5-154-a1826692
    * Origin: https://github.com/askovpen/goated (2:310/31)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 22:12:09
    Hey Maurice!

    All wrong! You set it along the wrong path. This one will be
    better

    Confirmed. Simply the best. :-)

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Richard Menedetter on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 22:19:36
    Hey Richard!

    Tina Turner is a node in Fidonet??

    Not that I am aware of but I posted it to her anyhow given the subject.

    Why was there no REPLY Kludge?

    It wasn't a reply.

    If you spell Eichhörnchen like Eichhoernchen then you get away
    with ASCII for German.

    But then how would I spell Björn? I suppose I could spell it Bjørn instead but then Björn might go off the rails and nobody wants that ... do they?

    If the software supports UTF-8

    Yes it does. As in the post "simply the best" it wrote German, Russian, Greek,
    Swedish and English. Unfortunetly the Swedish was all ascii but I have been know to post Swedish with utf8 characters in the past without any complaints. Mind you I believe it was you that had issues with one of my Swedish proverbs in the LINUX echo not too long ago.

    and you can read/write Russian, Hebrew, Arab or Chinese

    They are all possible except with Chinese I'd have to move to a GUI app instead
    of the console. However since this is the FTSC_PUBLIC forum I believe that Hebrew, Arab and Chinese are not supported, along with almost every other language on the planet. Also I threw Greek in the post which is also not supported by the FTSC so I suppose you caught me red handed breaking with 'standards'. Oh well.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 18:42:44
    Hello Maurice,

    23 Apr 19 21:58 at you wrote to you:

    σκίουροι στο παντελόνι μου" and "Ich

    Isn't this the reason FIDOTEST exists?

    Later,
    Sean

    ... Insomnia isn't anything to lose sleep over.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Sean Dennis on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 23:00:22
    Hallo Sean!

    Isn't this the reason FIDOTEST exists?

    Maybe but I needed to see it posted on a certain web site to see if they can count utf8 characters correctly.

    For the record they can't but they can display them. Also I couldn't find FIDOTEST there but I can find FTSC_PUBLIC.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Tuesday, April 23, 2019 19:27:48
    Hello Maurice,

    23 Apr 19 23:00 at you wrote to me:

    For the record they can't but they can display them. Also I couldn't
    find FIDOTEST there but I can find FTSC_PUBLIC.

    If it's the website I'm thinking of it hasn't been maintained in a long time.

    I understand why you're looking at the message from the Web-based side of things though.

    I'd offer you to use my BBS for FIDOTEST but it won't work for what you're attempting.

    Later,
    Sean

    ... A thing not worth doing isn't worth doing well.
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Sean Dennis on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 00:04:40
    Hallo Sean!

    If it's the website I'm thinking of it hasn't been maintained in
    a long time

    It's in Russia. I'd have to have a better look around to see if it has been maintained but it did post "simply the best" which I can confirm was created recently. I'd rather not advertize for them but will post the url(s) if pressed to. There are two posts there that tell the tale that the site cannot count utf8 characters properly. I made sure with my posts that this would be obvious if true.

    I'd offer you to use my BBS for FIDOTEST

    Maybe for future tests. I am confident we could design a test for whatever either of us could come up with that requires testing. Also I prefer terminal apps over web based ones. "simply the best" was created by a terminal based app and will demonstrate proper word wrapping on a BBS that can count characters properly. Can yours? ;-)

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

    ... Huil niet om mij, ik heb vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's EuroPoint - Ladysmith BC, Canada (2:280/464.113)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:50:48

    On 2019 Apr 23 22:04:14, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    Why was there no REPLY Kludge?
    Also I did not get the original mail that you replied to.

    AFAICT, it was an original post, not a reply to anything...

    )\/(ark

    Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
    Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 20:33:10
    Hi Maurice!

    23 Apr 2019 22:19, from Maurice Kinal -> Richard Menedetter:

    Tina Turner is a node in Fidonet??
    Not that I am aware of

    So why address a message to a nonexistant node?

    If the software supports UTF-8
    Yes it does.

    Yours ... many others not.

    Mind you I believe it was you that had issues with one of my Swedish proverbs in the LINUX echo not too long ago.

    Indeed. The issue is that I do not speak/read Swedish.

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Her kisses left something to be desired - the rest of her.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
    * Origin: You cannot see the wood for the trees. (2:310/31)
  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 21:15:23
    Indeed. The issue is that I do not speak/read Swedish.

    What a pity. Maybe I, who excel at that, can be of assistance? That way trying to keep up with the subject line...



    ..

    --- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; sv-SE; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101125
    * Origin: news://eljaco.se (2:203/2)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 19:03:29
    Hey Richard!

    So why address a message to a nonexistant node?

    Because she provided the subject which is accurate and deserves honouring.

    If the software supports UTF-8
    Yes it does.
    Yours ... many others not.

    Too true but someone has to blaze the trail and demonstrate the one and true way as opposed to the total failure of the current strategy as expressed in fts-5003.001.

    The issue is that I do not speak/read Swedish.

    In the case of the msg/reply (I don't recall which) in question it didn't/doesn't matter. However your comment at the time on the questionable translation by 'trans' generated some interesting exploration. Thank you for that.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.7(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's Brain - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001)
  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Bj÷rn Felten on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 21:24:36
    Hi Bj÷rn!

    24 Apr 2019 21:15, from Bj÷rn Felten -> Richard Menedetter:

    Indeed. The issue is that I do not speak/read Swedish.
    What a pity.

    Nobody is perfect ;)

    Maybe I, who excel at that, can be of assistance?

    Not really, thanx.

    CU, Ricsi

    ... The problem is that children last so much longer than marriages.
    --- GoldED+/LNX
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  • From Richard Menedetter@2:310/31 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 21:29:52
    Hi Maurice!

    24 Apr 2019 19:03, from Maurice Kinal -> Richard Menedetter:

    However your comment at the time on the questionable translation by 'trans' generated some interesting exploration. Thank you for that.

    You're welcome!

    CU, Ricsi

    ... Husbands are like fires. They go out if unattended. -Zsa Zsa Gabor
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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Richard Menedetter on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 16:52:32

    On 2019 Apr 24 20:33:10, you wrote to Maurice Kinal:

    Tina Turner is a node in Fidonet??
    Not that I am aware of

    So why address a message to a nonexistant node?

    he didn't... echomail is not addressed to a node like netmail is... it is also possible that there is a tina turner reading fidonet ;)

    )\/(ark

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  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to Maurice Kinal on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 22:10:03
    Hello Maurice,

    24 Apr 19 00:04 at you wrote to me:

    Maybe for future tests. I am confident we could design a test for whatever either of us could come up with that requires testing. Also
    I prefer terminal apps over web based ones. "simply the best" was
    created by a terminal based app and will demonstrate proper word
    wrapping on a BBS that can count characters properly. Can yours? ;-)

    I don't know as I've never bothered. I have other things to fix in MBSE than people's pet peeves that actually don't bother anyone but them... ;)

    Later,
    Sean

    ... On y soit, qui mal y pense. (You are what you think.)
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Sean Dennis@1:18/200 to mark lewis on Wednesday, April 24, 2019 22:12:32
    Hello mark,

    24 Apr 19 16:52 at you wrote to Richard Menedetter:


    he didn't... echomail is not addressed to a node like netmail is... it
    is also possible that there is a tina turner reading fidonet ;)

    Fidonet: Simply The Best? :D

    Later,
    Sean

    ... Diligence is the mother of good luck. - Benjamin Franklin
    --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20180707
    * Origin: Outpost BBS * Limestone, TN, USA (1:18/200)
  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001.2989 to Sean Dennis on Thursday, April 25, 2019 05:45:33
    Hey Sean!

    I have other things to fix in MBSE than people's pet peeves that
    actually don't bother anyone but them... ;)

    That works for me. Have fun.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

    ... Don't cry for me I have vi.
    --- GNU bash, version 5.0.3(1)-release (aarch64-raspi3b+-linux-gnu)
    * Origin: Little Mikey's CanadARM - Ladysmith BC, Canada (1:153/7001.2989)