• Re: more then a little late

    From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Alan Ianson on Sunday, February 11, 2024 11:54:31
    On 31 Jan 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...

    Biden has been good for Americaa and the economy.
    You say these and other things too, promoting left causes and or polices.
    There is No truth to any of it within your positive Biden messaging.
    You prop up Joe Biden, like a corpse; weekend at Bernies.

    I am not propping up Biden. I am just telling it like it is.

    telling it like it is? (what is more accurate) how you wish to see it.

    The three links below are from very left leaning sites. and yet they all
    speak to very damming words of Joe Biden.


    Title: The economy is a trouble spot for Biden.
    Site : NPR.org
    tinyurl.com/4ft8p4kb

    Title: Biden makes "several" false and misleading claims in economic speech Site : CNN.com
    tinyurl.com/3n2tthd9

    Title: This Economy Has Bigger Problems Than [Bad Vibes]
    Site : nytimes.com
    http://tinyurl.com/3z2dmccj2
    The Biden administration's messaging about the strength of the economy will shape President Biden's 2024 campaign. If Americans' negative vibes about the economy persist, Donald Trump will surely bludgeon Biden with a line of attack that he relishes delivering. One of Trump's favorite claims is that he is a successful businessman who ran a strong economy as president. Too few people believe that Trump, the G.O.P.'s favored candidate, will go to prison between now and the 2024 election. And so it should worry Biden that, according to that Times/Siena poll, a majority of likely voters trust Trump more than Biden on
    the economy.

    With Biden's failing memory on the minds of many Americans and it's no longer criticism from the right anymore.
    There has been been scrutiny of other recent events when the 81-year-old president mixed up names of foreign leaders. Regarding Egypt and Mexico.

    The second gaffe was when Biden referred to François Mitterrand, who died in 1996, instead of French President Emmanuel Macron and the late Helmut Kohl instead of former German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

    and yet you tell us everything is just fine.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Gregory Deyss on Sunday, February 11, 2024 22:10:24
    I am not propping up Biden. I am just telling it like it is.

    telling it like it is?

    Yes. The economy under Biden is doing well. Very well.

    (what is more accurate) how you wish to see it.

    The fact is the the economy under Biden is doing well.

    The three links below are from very left leaning sites. and yet they all speak to very damming words of Joe Biden.

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the economy under Biden is doing good.

    If you really cared about the economy you would be happy about that.

    The fact you are not makes me think you are caring about something other than the economy.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Monday, February 12, 2024 20:55:57
    Hello Alan,

    The three links below are from very left leaning sites. and yet they all
    speak to very damming words of Joe Biden.

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the economy under Biden is doing good.

    If you really cared about the economy you would be happy about that.

    The fact you are not makes me think you are caring about something other than the economy.

    The economy is for the person. Not the other way around.
    So whatever it is that Greg is caring about has nothing to
    do with the economy. Must be the New York Jets football
    team's failure to make the NFL playoffs in decades ...

    For Life,
    Lee

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Monday, February 12, 2024 14:40:46
    The fact is the the economy under Biden is doing well.

    What's well about it?

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the economy under Biden is doing good.

    Doing good how?

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Monday, February 12, 2024 23:09:20
    The fact is the the economy under Biden is doing well.

    What's well about it?

    For real?

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the
    economy under Biden is doing good.

    Doing good how?

    Doing good by every metric.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Aaron Thomas on Tuesday, February 13, 2024 08:00:16
    On 12 Feb 2024, Aaron Thomas said the following...

    The fact is the the economy under Biden is doing well.

    What's well about it?

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the
    economy under Biden is doing good.
    This is of course equivalent to putting both fingers in his ears and going blah blah blah and then reciting I can't hear you.
    Just as a spoiled brat child would do.

    When it happens (failures of the Biden Administration and of the Man himself) Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls going even lower. The more Biden does nothing, the clearer - what will be required to clean up Biden's mess. Even the blue liberal city of NYC could welcome Trump to fix crime that is like a plague -destroying everything it comes in contact with.
    Maybe Trump is the Batman that Gotham needs.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:06:56
    The fact is the the economy under Biden is doing well.

    What's well about it?

    For real?

    You can read anything/everything on the net. The fact remains that the >> economy under Biden is doing good.

    Doing good how?

    Doing good by every metric.

    What about the national debt? Isn't that considered part of the economy? The national debt isn't doing very well under Biden, you know, with all this borrowing money and then smuggling it out of the USA, leaving it for future generations to account for.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Gregory Deyss on Tuesday, February 13, 2024 10:26:56
    When it happens (failures of the Biden Administration and of the Man himself) Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls
    going even lower. The more Biden does nothing, the clearer - what will
    be required to clean up Biden's mess. Even the blue liberal city of NYC could welcome Trump to fix crime that is like a plague -destroying everything it comes in contact with. Maybe Trump is the Batman that
    Gotham needs.

    I hope they've learned their lesson. Biden/Hochul/Adams is a deadly trifecta.

    You're right about Trump being just like Batman. He tries to protect innocent people from evil, while Biden is just like the Joker and he puts our lives in
    danger.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Aaron Thomas on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 00:20:38
    What about the national debt?

    It's the national debt now is it? Biden is reponsible for the national debt?

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:35:39
    Alan Ianson -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2024-02-13 08:09:
    Doing good how?

    Doing good by every metric.

    If they don't care shit about the bigger issues, maybe they should care about the micro-level?

    According to the United State's Census Bureau, the median income per capita was:

    2019: $31k (Trump, before the pandemic)
    2023: $41k (Biden, after some of the GOP damage repaired)

    If they don't see that huge raise in just four years, they really should pull their heads out of the ass of their Orange God.


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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 11:38:54
    Gregory Deyss -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2024-02-13 14:00:
    Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls going even lower.

    Ahhh... The Polls Myth. Is that really where you take voting advice?

    Let me in on a secret: The polls that are presented on mainstream media are purchased from private, for-profit companies, that of course are competing over their customers. Ergo: the customers can choose the pollster, which gives them the result that they want.

    In contrast, there's the independent pollsters, who poll not to order, but as educational projects on various universities and colleges.

    One of the most renowned such is that from the University of Quinnipiac, that don't accept money from outside, not even donations. Here's results from their latest *unbiased* poll:

    Age Biden Trump
    18-34 55% 41%
    35-49 48% 46%
    50-64 48% 45%
    65+ 54% 42%

    White
    Men 37% 59%
    Women 54% 41%
    All 46% 49%

    Black 78% 16%
    Hisp 45% 47%

    Ergo: only white, middle-aged men still support Trump. Fortunately the women will make a difference, they don't like being grabbed by the pussy and absolutely do not want the dirty hands of the GOP going deep into their uterus.

    The newer generations are coming, while the older ones have learned to think for themselves. It's obvious why the GOP so desperately want to prevent the blacks and the students from voting. Democracy, anyone?


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  • From IB Joe@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 06:41:12
    On 14 Feb 2024, Alan Ianson said the following...


    It's the national debt now is it? Biden is reponsible for the national debt?


    Yes... He's printing the money for his stupid policies... He could stop the endless wars tomorrow and change the US foreign policy where they send billion to other counties while his own people do without.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Alan Ianson on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 07:59:06
    What about the national debt?

    It's the national debt now is it? Biden is reponsible for the national debt?

    He's responsible for raising it by several trillion dollars. Congress couldn't have done it without his signature.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 08:00:39
    Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls going even lower.

    Ahhh... The Polls Myth. Is that really where you take voting advice?

    Let me in on a secret: The polls that are presented on mainstream
    media are purchased from private, for-profit companies, that of course
    are competing over their customers. Ergo: the customers can choose the pollster, which gives them the result that they want.

    This is the smartest thing I've ever heard you say. Can you do me a favor and make sure that other liberals understand this process too?

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Björn Felten on Wednesday, February 14, 2024 22:02:55
    On 14 Feb 2024, Björn Felten said the following...

    Gregory Deyss -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2024-02-13 14:00:
    Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls going even lower.

    Ahhh... The Polls Myth. Is that really where you take voting advice?
    Not a myth. Biden approval numbers are in the 30's and what does that say, beyond the mathematical obvious that 70% + disapprove.
    What has man done that is positive?

    The left wing media and The White House has been telling us for more then a while now that the southern border is secure and even that it's closed and yet there is a massive problem with illegals pouring into the United States, (from around the globe) it's complete chaos in New York City. Mayor Adams is way out of his league, so much for a sanctuary city
    ie; sanctuary trap... http://tinyurl.com/ypkdy93e

    Ergo: only white, middle-aged men still support Trump. Fortunately
    the women will make a difference, they don't like being grabbed by the pussy and absolutely do not want the dirty hands of the GOP going deep into their uterus.
    I don't know about all of that but Fifty Shades of Gray says otherwise the first movie in the series, was a box office smash that remains the fifth-highest-grossing movie by a female director at a total of nearly $570 million worldwide.

    Between 2011 and 2019, the Fifty Shades trilogy by British author E.L.
    James which includes Fifty Shades of Grey, Fifty Shades Darker, and Fifty Shades Freed sold a whopping 35 million copies in both print and e-book formats in the United States.
    How does that grab ya?

    What your really upset about is after this Billy Bush story came out Trump still went on to become the 45th President of the United States, and THAT is why your kickers are in a bunch.


    The newer generations are coming, while the older ones have learned BF> to think for themselves. It's obvious why the GOP so desperately want to BF> prevent the blacks and the students from voting. Democracy, anyone?
    All of these polls where ever they may be from showing Biden beating Trump are a complete fantasy, Biden has been absolutely dreadful.
    The For-mentioned southern border is a disaster, inflation is still very high and the cost of groceries is not coming down anytime soon.
    Gasoline goes down 10 cents than goes up 15 cents. ($3.10 - $3.15) and will
    go even high as time marches on.

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  • From Björn Felten@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Thursday, February 15, 2024 10:00:58
    You really are an expert on creating a total mess of a comment. Are you even sober, when producing those masterpieces of yours?

    All I can say, when looking for something worthy of a comment in the incoherent cesspool below, is the following, fully aware of the fact that you are so brainwashed, that facts just run off you like water on a goose.

    About polls being a myth:

    Let me in on a secret: The polls that are presented on mainstream media are purchased from private, for-profit companies, that of course are competing over their customers. Ergo: the customers can choose the pollster, which gives them the result that they want.

    In contrast, there's the independent pollsters, who poll not to order, but as educational projects on various universities and colleges.

    About Biden being "absolutely dreadful":

    According to the United State's Census Bureau, the median income per capita was:

    2019: $31k (Trump, before the pandemic)
    2023: $41k (Biden, after much of the GOP damage repaired)


    Gregory Deyss -> Björn Felten skrev 2024-02-15 04:02:
    On 14 Feb 2024, Björn Felten said the following...

    Gregory Deyss -> Aaron Thomas skrev 2024-02-13 14:00:
    Resulting in even further dismal disapproval via the polls going
    even
    lower.

    Ahhh... The Polls Myth. Is that really where you take voting advice?
    Not a myth. Biden approval numbers are in the 30's and what does that
    say, beyond the mathematical obvious that 70% + disapprove.
    What has man done that is positive?

    The left wing media and The White House has been telling us for more
    then a while now that the southern border is secure and even that it's closed and yet there is a massive problem with illegals pouring into the United States, (from around the globe) it's complete chaos in New York City. Mayor Adams is way out of his league, so much for a sanctuary city ie; sanctuary trap... http://tinyurl.com/ypkdy93e

    Ergo: only white, middle-aged men still support Trump. Fortunately
    the women will make a difference, they don't like being grabbed by the
    pussy and absolutely do not want the dirty hands of the GOP going deep
    into their uterus.
    I don't know about all of that but Fifty Shades of Gray says otherwise
    the first movie in the series, was a box office smash that remains the fifth-highest-grossing movie by a female director at a total of nearly $570 million worldwide.

    Between 2011 and 2019, the Fifty Shades trilogy by British author E.L. James which includes Fifty Shades of Grey, Fifty Shades Darker, and
    Fifty Shades Freed sold a whopping 35 million copies in both print and e-book formats in the United States.
    How does that grab ya?

    What your really upset about is after this Billy Bush story came out Trump still went on to become the 45th President of the United States, and
    THAT is
    why your kickers are in a bunch.


    The newer generations are coming, while the older ones have
    learned BF> to think for themselves. It's obvious why the GOP so desperately want to BF> prevent the blacks and the students from voting. Democracy, anyone?
    All of these polls where ever they may be from showing Biden beating
    Trump are a complete fantasy, Biden has been absolutely dreadful.
    The For-mentioned southern border is a disaster, inflation is still very high and the cost of groceries is not coming down anytime soon.
    Gasoline goes down 10 cents than goes up 15 cents. ($3.10 - $3.15) and will
    go even high as time marches on.

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  • From Aaron Thomas@1:342/200 to Björn Felten on Thursday, February 15, 2024 06:36:25
    You really are an expert on creating a total mess of a comment. Are you even sober, when producing those masterpieces of yours?

    But he is the first liberal on Fidonet to admit that polls are bs.

    Of course that view is "statistically" likely to change when the polls are in Democrats' favor.

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Björn Felten on Thursday, February 15, 2024 22:10:05
    On 15 Feb 2024, Björn Felten said the following...

    You really are an expert on creating a total mess of a comment. Are you even sober, when producing those masterpieces of yours?

    Yes sober - Most can not afford alcohol due to things being so bad.
    What I wrote is not a mess, but crystal clear.
    People are really struggling and it's completely Biden's fault.
    which might explain why his approval numbers are in the 30's

    inflation, illegals flooding into the country.
    Biden says he needs congress to act, (to give him the power) - he says..
    but he is the President he could do it by executive order at the very least he could go back to the Trump Policy to keep these people in Mexico.

    It's not sustainable that is what Mayor Adams of NYC keeps telling us.
    He is right on two points...
    1. It is not sustainable. and it is not that they are running out of room,
    2. it is worse they in NYC are out of room.

    Laws on the books say that the homeless in NYC are to be provided shelter and a place to sleep, but this policy was never designed for mass illegals from around the globe and all points south of the border who are coming to NYC.

    What is so incoherent about that, you have me confused with Joe Biden.
    It is not me who is brainwashed, I live here in NY you don't.

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