another problem I(WE) are having is everyone is pulling from everyone
else .. If you have a NC in your area than people in that area should
be pulling from them .. not someone across the world .. I dont
understand this .. why would someone setup a FidoNet feed in one
state when there is a NC in that area? .. before setting up new feeds
the NC needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local NC ...
That NC needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
another problem I(WE) are having is everyone is pulling from everyone else .. If you have a NC in your area than people in that area should be pulling from them .. not someone across the world .. I dont understand this .. why would someone setup a FidoNet feed in one state when there is a NC in that area? .. before setting up new feeds the NC needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local NC ... That NC needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
I have been fighting to setup FidoNet for a while .. and I run into 2 major problems ... 1) the Backbone.na file is screwed I am getting
mail from echos that are not listed in the backbone.na file
.. if
there is a change it needs to be changed everywhere and updated and hatched out.. 2) the other region NA files have the echo tags but no descriptions .. how are we to know what the damn echo tags are for???
another problem I(WE) are having is everyone is pulling from everyone
else .. If you have a NC in your area than people in that area should
be pulling from them .. not someone across the world .. I dont
understand this .. why would someone setup a FidoNet feed in one state when there is a NC in that area? .. before setting up new feeds the NC needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local NC ... That NC
needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
Why is FidoNet so laxed on this now a days .. it needs to be addressed
and fixed!
or am I just screwed in the head?
feeds the NC needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local
NC ... That NC needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
Where does it state that an NC or an RC needs to provide a feed? NEC
or REC when we had them did that work,
and, P4 does NOT state that you
HAVE to get a feed from a specific point. That was part of a cost
sharing thing in the nets many years ago, No longer true.
Hello THEBUTLER4!
Real names please..
Did you miss the updates yesterday?
Do you have access to your uplinks areafix so that you can make sure youonly
receive echoes listed in the backbone.na, or did you merely turn on echoeswith
the "*" wildcard?
As far as the North American Backbone files go, they are hatched out if a change is made or warranted, but they arent just for the sake of doing so ifno
new information needs dessiminating.
The North American Backbone and other backbones, have in the pastdistributed
regional specific echoes as a service to its various links. What we have had happen as regional and zone level politics flared up in the past is linksmake
available regional echoes to people not part of the pertinent region,therefore
most regions have decided to limit distribution of their regional echoes to strictly within their regions and often directly by that regions RC.
As it turns out, many whom end up helping move the mail happen to be a coordinator. I am both a regional coordinator and a net coordinator, Ihappen
to run a fairly sizeable mailhub and I peer with 3 others whom run sizeable mailhubs, 2 of them are regional and or net coordinators and the other isthe
zone coordinator. Alot of this came to be because we either inherited a outgoing RC's links when we attained the position or moving mail was what we were already doing when we attained the position. Other factors are that as Fidonet shrunk, so has the number of "volunteers".
What you suggest may have been evident in the past and actually far more feasible during the days of telephone modem transport with the then high LD costs, but no more.
If you want to talk about what should be, you shouldnt be using your administrative AKA (1:311/0) to send or receive echomail with, you should be using your primary non-administrative aka.
I do know what has sparked this, you are the NC of a 2 man net, nothingwrong
today with 2 man nets. Unknown to you, the other man in your net, sought and received a feed from my system and is using it. You a day or so later also applied to me for a feed, which is setup by the way, I happened to informyou
of the link, but I suppose you had designs on him feeding from you..
I hope your distress isnt because 1:311/2 decision to feed here?
and, P4 does NOT state that you
HAVE to get a feed from a specific point. That was part of a cost sharing thing in the nets many years ago, No longer true.
I suspect its a culture shock thing, ergo a returning node whom remembers things as they once were.
Now I am off to connect a node from NET 167, Stephen Monteith whom just realized that Dale Ross' system is still offline.. (09/2007) <G>
Now I am off to connect a node from NET 167, Stephen Monteith whom
just realized that Dale Ross' system is still offline.. (09/2007)
<G>
How long has he been offline?
Now I am off to connect a node from NET 167, Stephen Monteith whom just realized that Dale Ross' system is still offline.. (09/2007) <G>
Real names please..
Did you miss the updates yesterday?
I guess I did .. I should talk to you personally at this point .. I am getting VERY frustrated ....
Do you have access to your uplinks areafix so that you can makesure you only -> receive echoes listed in the backbone.na, or did you merely turn on echoes with -> the "*" wildcard?
Thats what happened .. my uplink just turned everything on .. I have
since stopped that and sent in what I wanted to sub to .. however I am still getting orphan echos ...
I do know what has sparked this, you are the NC of a 2 man net,nothing wrong -> today with 2 man nets. Unknown to you, the other man
in your net, sought and -> received a feed from my system and is using
it. You a day or so later also -> applied to me for a feed, which is
setup by the way, I happened to inform you -> of the link, but I
suppose you had designs on him feeding from you..
Not 100% ... While I really dont care who they pull from .. I just
know in the past I had to pull from my local NC (so I was told at the time) .. I am now the NC for Net311 so I thought it was "Law" that any
311 net would be pulling from me. so .. its not a big deal .. just
wanted to clear it up ...
Is there a phone number that I can contact you at? .. I have a few
things that I need to talk to you .. however I dont want to do it in
open forums ... I guess I could netmail you .. lol ..
and back then in the more elaborate nets, the NEC didnt even move
the mail, but was merely a administrator of sorts, with others doing
the actual hauling.
On 07-11-08 23:00, Thebutler4 <=-
spoke to All about FidoNet total Revamp ... <=-
2) the other region NA files have the echo tags but no descriptions ..
how are we to know what the damn echo tags are for???
another problem I(WE) are having is everyone is pulling from everyone
else ..
If you have a NC in your area than people in that area should
be pulling from them .. not someone across the world .. I dont
understand this .. why would someone setup a FidoNet feed in one state when there is a NC in that area? .. before setting up new feeds the NC needs to check to see if there is a feed from a local NC ... That NC
needs to pull from there RC and etc. etc. ...
Why is FidoNet so laxed on this now a days .. it needs to be addressed
and fixed!
or am I just screwed in the head?
I emailed him a month ago to get a update on his status or intentions,
he sounds like he is stuck in the middle of a decision making
process, trying to decide if the effort is worth his time, I dont
want to get pushy in this respect, because I dont want to force him
into a decision he might not make if left alone to decide.
I do know he has taken up being a major booster for local high school sports, operating message boards and web sites and with his own kids
being of that age.
Anyway, this is why I have and am leaving him in the nodelist until I
am told different. (By him)
If Dale needs a box I can ship him a complete Fido capable system
except for software and monitor. It won't be new and it won't be
pretty but it will be functional.
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